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This is a very controversial topic and I was wondering what you all thought about it? Should it be allowed to happen? Should it? Why or why not?
 
I think it should under certain circumstances. For instance, I dont approve if a girl and a boy are too lazy to not get a condom because they know they can abort later. I mean, i'd slap the **** out of these people. However, if a girl is raped or if the condom accidentaly broke or something like that, then i encourage it. Although all the sexually active girls should take the pill every month just in case.
 
I personally feel that it's a woman's choice what she wants to do as it's her decision and her body and ultimately her potential baby. I do not believe that the baby's life begins at conception, however, so I think in the early stages that abortion is okay.
It's a bit of a piss take if the couple just didn't use protection on purpose but mistakes can happen to anyone so I suppose it's down to the individual's and hopefully they just stay responsible.
 
The thing is : i dont believe anyone will be responsable as long as they can have as many abortions as they please.
I've seen so much crap on internet these past 3 years... I mean seriously.. Why would 13 years-old girl want to be adults and proudly say they had an abortion???
I think it's both choice to whether they want to have the baby or not.

For example: my bf has a 2 years-old kid. He's 27 now. at the time, they didnt use condom and she got pregnant on purpose. He tried to tell her to get the morning pill but she didn't. On purpose. he tried to get her to abort. she didnt. She wanted to get pregnant because she thought he wouldnt get away if she did. I mean who does that.????

so obviously, it's girl's ultimate choice but i dont think it's polite or even correct.
 
Yeah I totally get what you mean there like some young girl getting loads just because is stupid.
I don't know if you saw, but recently on the news some girl who was married couldn't get an abortion because Ireland generally doesn't like it (long story short) and she died. Those are the instances I think women should be allowed.

Honestly, I think a full assessment needs to be done of the woman and the situation to allow the people who deserve it to get it and to give serious talks to irresponsible little girls.
 
I've never been in a situation where other people have been. But I've always said I would never have an abortion, I wouldn't, I couldn't give it away or anything - It's my child.
But however, in certain circumstances I think people should be allowed abortion, for example rape, medical conditions, etc.
But having no protection and been stupid, is not a reason to have an abortion.
 
^ Yeah it was confirmed that there was something wrong with the fetus and that she was likely to die but she wasn't allowed to abort when they found that out and she died due to organ failure. :(
 
For example: my bf has a 2 years-old kid. He's 27 now. at the time, they didnt use condom and she got pregnant on purpose. He tried to tell her to get the morning pill but she didn't. On purpose. he tried to get her to abort. she didnt. She wanted to get pregnant because she thought he wouldnt get away if she did. I mean who does that.????

Women like that sicken me; what a horrible thing to do, use the child as a weapon. For that attitude alone she is undeserving to have children.

As for the topic at hand, I'm pro-choice. It's up to the woman what she wants to do, but I do hope she takes the father into her decision. At the end of the day people have abortion's for different reasons, whether it be medical or an accidental pregnancy, and as long as they think about it thoroughly and don't treat the situation as a joke, good luck to them.
 
i think the decision should be entirely between the woman, her doctor, and (if applicable) her boyfriend/husband. it is none of my business what someone else does.

i do not agree with using abortion as a birth control and an excuse not to be safe, but the majority of people don't really see it that way anyway. and even if someone was irresponsible, i don't think they should have to suffer for the rest of their life for one mistake, hoping of course that they would learn from it. like i said, not my business. and doctors should not be able to tell lies like abortion raising the risk of cancer or guilt trip patients to persuade them into going through with an unwanted pregnancy.

i was in a position last year where at first, i was VERY worried that my birth control had failed me. of course, this turned out to be nothing and from stress, but if i had had to, i am pretty certain i would've aborted it because i do not ever want to bring an unwanted child into the world.
 
I'm against the thought of using abortion as a salvation or a way out, especially when one is totally or partially responsible for their predicament. I'm not going to go through the boring argument about whether abortion is a murder or not, but I'd just like to say that some people should become more responsible towards this issue instead of ranting about some others being pro-life.

even if someone was irresponsible, i don't think they should have to suffer for the rest of their life for one mistake, hoping of course that they would learn from it.

Raising a child should not be a suffering. On the contrary, I personally consider it to be a really noble thing. I believe it would be a suffering only when one insists to be continuously irresponsible.
 
If a kid gets pregnant from their own actions, then too bad.
If someone makes a mistake and gets pregnant, too bad.

If someone is sexually assaulted and gets pregnant, I'd say it's acceptable.

I think that it's not suffering, but it's a lot of stress and something you don't want. I know personally I really just don't like kids, so it'd be a miserable time for me.
 
Raising a child should not be a suffering. On the contrary, I personally consider it to be a really noble thing. I believe it would be a suffering only when one insists to be continuously irresponsible.

I understand what you mean there, but an unplanned child can be incredibly burdening on someone, especially if they're younger and trying to complete their education and get a sustainable career. I'm sure that if I was landed with a baby right now, I'd still love it and I wouldn't be suffering exactly, but there are a lot of things in life you have to sacrifice if you want to get pregnant. A lot of young people, and sometimes a lot of older people, aren't ready for that yet.
Not only that, but if someone isn't ready for a child and in some way or another isn't capable of bringing it up properly the child could be the one who is suffering.

Side note
It's easy to say, "If you're not ready for a kid then don't have sex", but nobody is really going to comply to that, no matter how sensible that is.
 
Although all the sexually active girls should take the pill every month just in case.

Just wanna note that contraception isn't one-size-fits-all... The pill definitely doesn't work for every girl. I've known plenty of people that haven't been able to tolerate its side effects, and have gone for other methods of birth control.
 
I'm pro choice, however I encourage abortion over adoption, and over trying to raise it if you're still dependent on others yourself.
I had an abortion myself when I was 19. Both forms of birth control failed, we weren't financially stable, we lived in a 2 bedroom 3 floor walk up with 2 other people,2 dogs,2 cats and a rabbit, I had medical issues that played a factor etc.
I didn't have to think twice about my decision, I knew it was the right one and to this day I have zero regrets and really, IMO unless you've actually been in a position where you have to make a choice like that, your opinion really isn't valid anyway. All it really takes to make someone pro choice is an unplanned pregnancy at a ****ty time.
It's also much more mature to be able to make the choice to have an abortion instead of having a kid you can't properly raise, or having a kid period if you cant afford the hospital bills if you plan to put it up for adoption.
 
Raising a child should not be a suffering. On the contrary, I personally consider it to be a really noble thing. I believe it would be a suffering only when one insists to be continuously irresponsible.

What if they live in a bad household?
What if they can't afford to look after the child?
What if their partner leaves them because they can't deal with it?
What if they're treated with disgust wherever they go, simply because they fell pregnant at the wrong time in their life?

Each of these options can and often will lead to the child having a less than stellar life, through no fault of its own. Besides which, orphanages are already bursting at the seams; I just wish more people would consider adoption before messing around and getting pregnant.

OT: I am pro-choice. Without my consent, without your consent, without anybody you know's consent, people are killed every day. We have absolutely no say in this. Why, then, do we feel entitled to have a say in the life of a child? If both mother and father (where applicable) agree it is not the right time, who are we to say different? If someone leaves their laptop in their car, and it gets stolen, we don't say "well it was your fault, now live with your stupidity." We help them get it back, either through insurance, or through the police service. We don't punish their lack of care, why should we punish somebody who fell pregnant by mistake?
 
Men should have more of a say in abortion and should be able to demand one if they can't afford to raise it or pay child support.

brb she forgets her pill
brb have to pay child support for 18 years because of her stupidity
 
Men should have more of a say in abortion and should be able to demand one if they can't afford to raise it or pay child support.

brb she forgets her pill
brb have to pay child support for 18 years because of her stupidity

The pill isn't 100% effective though. So even then, pregnancy could still manifest itself. It could easily be argued that you, the man, should have worn a condom in addition to her taking the pill.
 
Men should have more of a say in abortion and should be able to demand one if they can't afford to raise it or pay child support.

brb she forgets her pill
brb have to pay child support for 18 years because of her stupidity

This is a difficult topic.

The best solution I've honestly heard is just letting the father opt-out of child support, if the mother decides to keep it against his will.

I don't think us guys should have a final say over what the girl does with her body, though.
 
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