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If so, how do you define the friendzone? Have you ever been friendzoned?


Whilst I understand that there will be plenty of women and/or men who see someone as a friend only, I don't view the friendzone as an inescapable "trap"; there are plenty of stories were best friends eventually got together and have married. The friendzone does seem to be used as an excuse for the less successful to use when things don't go their way, but for the most part I believe the friendzone is simply the easiest way of expressing "He/she doesn't seem me as a romantic/sexual partner".
 
I've always thought of the friend zone to be kind of sexist to be honest. But plenty of people seem to think it exists.

I think if it is a real thing and you're there then you probably deserve to be. Should have been more straight forward :)
 
I'm dating my best friend, what up.

OT: It's a stupid term made up by childish people who feel like they're somehow entitled to date a person, and when they're shot down for whatever reason whine about it on social networking sites about how the entire female (or male) race are ****s/****es, etc.
 
@Smooth

Someone who is "just friends" with someone and has no chance of going out with that person has been supposedly friend-zoned.
:P

It makes perfect sense now, thank you Lauren!

I'm dating my best friend, what up.

OT: It's a stupid term made up by childish people who feel like they're somehow entitled to date a person, and when they're shot down for whatever reason whine about it on social networking sites about how the entire female (or male) race are ****s/****es, etc.

I was thinking along the same lines, Rebecca. I don't recall needing to slap labels on things like this when I was younger. Kids these days are SO different from when I was in high school!
 
I think I'm still considered a kid. I certainly don't feel like an adult. I just find it pointless that people try to soften the blow somehow by using this friendzone idea.
 
I think it does exist in a way, but it doesn't necessarily have to be intended in a malicious way that some people view it. If I like a girl and she just wants to be friends, then I'd describe myself as being in the friendzone. Doesn't mean I "deserve" them or think badly of them, but yeah it happens.
 
I have friendzoned girls and have been friendzoned myself by girls and neither feel great but its the nature of relationships. I have told my self numerous times that I could do a hell of a lot worse than this girl but doesn't make her any more my type.

WAIT, I've just seen that Lauren post count is 1337.
 
i basically think it's dumb but it probably exists in terms of the most literal definition. yes people will think of others are 'just friends' because get this- we've all got the right to decide who we want to be intimate with and date!
the part i hate most about the 'friendzone' is the attitude behind it. "ugh that **** totally friendzoned me after i was SO NICE to her"; like uh, champ, you're supposed to be nice to people anyway. no-ones going to have sex with anyone just because they were nice a few times.
i feel like it's a really ****ty way to deal with rejection. just move on and realise your feelings aren't always going to be reciprocated and that when someone says no, usually it means no, not 'try again'. there's like 7 billion people in the world, fixate on someone else and deal with just being a 'friend' (which in my opinion, is a pretty good deal?? being friends is awesome).
 
Friendzone is just a word really. You're considered friendzoned when you're interested in someone who only sees you as a friend.
What strikes me is that - well, guys usually - cry about being friendzoned when they're like, not lady's men and stuff. That doesn't automatically make you a good guy. Plus, there's so much more to everything. Just cuz you don't run after all the girls and would be ready to treat your girl right, it just may not be reciprocal.
 
Doesn't exist, or only as a self-perpetuating concept. I have no idea where it started but I've mostly seen it used by or in reference to the less romantically/sexually experienced who behave and are treated in very stupid ways due to lack of initiative and communication.
 
The friendzone does seem to be used as an excuse for the less successful to use when things don't go their way, but for the most part I believe the friendzone is simply the easiest way of expressing "He/she doesn't seem me as a romantic/sexual partner".

I agree with all of that. ^ It is more like an excuse or a quicker way to explain that they're not interested in you, without succumbing to the embarrassment of admitting someone isn't attracted to you. I agree with [MENTION=149]Tommy[/MENTION] when it comes down to it being quite sexist. I use another site and in nearly every case, it's the guys who are getting "friendzoned" when really, they're being rejected by a girl who's not interested. Then they complain, saying "all women friendzone the good guys". We definitely don't! Most women don't friendzone, they just reject politely and most women with common sense, would go for a good guy. I'll have to be honest though, a lot of the complaining "good guys" aren't always physically attractive and we all know that there has to be some kind of physical attraction for a relationship to work. Also, like you said, people make it out to be some kind of trap that they can never escape from, but with enough determination, you can get out of the completely psychological, "friendzone".
 
i basically think it's dumb but it probably exists in terms of the most literal definition. yes people will think of others are 'just friends' because get this- we've all got the right to decide who we want to be intimate with and date!
the part i hate most about the 'friendzone' is the attitude behind it. "ugh that **** totally friendzoned me after i was SO NICE to her"; like uh, champ, you're supposed to be nice to people anyway. no-ones going to have sex with anyone just because they were nice a few times.
i feel like it's a really ****ty way to deal with rejection. just move on and realise your feelings aren't always going to be reciprocated and that when someone says no, usually it means no, not 'try again'. there's like 7 billion people in the world, fixate on someone else and deal with just being a 'friend' (which in my opinion, is a pretty good deal?? being friends is awesome).

Correct.
 
Yeah, I guess it's real. I got friendzoned when the guy I liked for nine years told me he only saw me as a friend after I confessed how much I liked him. Sure, it was over facebook but I couldn't get him alone at any point. He's always around people, and super popular.. unlike me.
 
Note: as far as I'm aware, the "friendzone" has two, very distinct meanings. I believe this thread is referring to the friendzone as a noun, which is a theoretical region of your mind where you keep friends you have no physical attraction to. The other meaning of friendzone is as a verb, where a guy wants to date a girl, but the girl views him as a friend.

Obviously, the friendzone exists. As a guy, most of my friends have been other guys. However, I would never date any of them, because I'm straight.

However, I have some other things to say. So, here it goes...

Another note: for purposes of simplicity, I am assuming a male/female relationship, and that the male is the one being friendzoned. Females can be friendzoned too, obviously, but since that doesn't seem to happen as often, I will avoid speaking of such scenarios to avoid confusion. Please note that the roles can easily be reversed, and often are.

The problem that I'm noticing is that a lot of "nice guys" aren't actually nice guys.

The guys who complain about being friendzoned aren't usually nice guys. They claim to be, but it's more or less a deceptive plot to get what they want, depending on how you look at it.

However, to understand why so many guys complain about being friendzoned, it is imperative to consider why a guy would set himself up to be in such a situation.

In any circumstance, rejection isn't easy to deal with. If you put in an application for a job and get denied, it sucks. Ultimately, it means you aren't skilled enough. If you apply to a college and get rejected, it also sucks - it's the same situation, basically.

But when it comes to asking out a girl, it's even worse. If you get rejected, it's not because your skills in a specific area aren't good enough. It's because you, as a person, are not up to the other person's standards.

Considering that, a lot of guys have a fear of being rejected, and certainly not without reason. Their solution is simple: guys think they can befriend the girl, and she will see him as being a guy worthy of her attention.

It seems like an attractive idea, especially for the ones who lack the confidence with women to begin with.

As I imagine it, that's what causes most of the complaining. In many cases, guys step into friendzone territory because they know they're not the most attractive, athletic, or outgoing. They want to impress the girl by being nice, and they hope the girl sees him as a person worthy of dating.

Now, imagine that the guy spent a few months getting to know the girl, before he feels comfortable telling her about her feelings. When a girl says, "let's just be friends," what she essentially means is "I'm not interested in you romantically."

So, from the guy's perspective, everything he was trying to avoid suddenly escalates out of proportion. Not only is he rejected, but he is rejected by someone who he thought appreciates him for who he actually is.

For someone who doesn't have much self esteem to begin with, I can't imagine that would be easy to deal with. It's no surprise guys who are friendzoned tend to make such statements about the opposite gender. Quite simply, it's because they're covering up their own insecurities.

Now, I'm not going to claim that girls have an obligation to love every guy who is nice to them - that would be impossible. It makes no sense, and a truly nice guy would respect the females decision to just be friends.

However, the way I see it, is that if the friendzone situation has not been handled properly, the relationship wouldn't have worked out to begin with. Relationships are mutual, and empathy is required from both parties.

In many cases, a guy will separate himself from the girl, thus ending the friendship. This is because it is very difficult for a guy to be around a girl who he is attracted to, when the attraction is not reciprocated.

I totally understand why the female would be offended by such a situation. If a guy does that, it essentially means he only wanted her for the sex, and not as a friend. In such a case, the friendship is ruined entirely.

But that isn't necessarily true. Stereotypically, many girls spend quite a bit of time thinking about their crushes, or guys in general. Often times, when guys are complaining about being friendzoned, it's because the girl knowingly talks about other guys in front of the guy who likes her. In that case, I, personally, do not believe the girl is being a good friend.

In order for a friendship to survive through such a situation, the guy must understand that the girl is not obligated to reciprocate his attraction. He should not pressure her into doing so, in any way. The simple fact of the matter is that not all love is reciprocated, and after all, that's what makes reciprocated love as special as it is.

But, on the flip side, I think a girl should not talk about her love life in front of a guy she rejected. That's not what friends do, to put it simply.

If a guy asks you out and you don't find him romantically attractive, but you still want him as a friend, don't hesitate to tell him that. Just keep in mind that as humans, we all interpret bad news with much more intensity than good news. Any guy is going to be upset in such a situation.

The solution? The girl should tell him why she wants to keep him as a friend. She should make sure he knows that although she isn't attracted to him, he still has a meaningful place in her life.

Of course, this is mostly all based on theory, with little practice in reality, but still.
 
The problem that I'm noticing is that a lot of "nice guys" aren't actually nice guys.

The guys who complain about being friendzoned aren't usually nice guys. They claim to be, but it's more or less a deceptive plot to get what they want, depending on how you look at it.

This 100x over. I often see people complaining (on the Internet...) about how they're such a nice guy and this **** friendzoned them, so now they're a shallow **** who doesn't appreciate all of the nice things they do for them. A real "nice guy" would do these things because they're a good friend, not because they expect the girl to suddenly fall in love with them and have sex with them. Also a lot of the time they do not make their feelings clear at all until a long while down the line, so how would the girl know?

Sure, the friendzone does exist in the sense that someone with a crush is rejected and they remain friends; but most of the time they get over it and carry on as before. People don't **** about this friendzone. It's when they have this sense of entitlement that they must go out with them because of all the things they do for them that the friendzone is ****ed about.
 
Hell yes it exists, I am friend zoned at the minute, I wish I wasn't but that's life.
The worst bit is that he is my best friend, the little ****er can't take hints though.
/rant over :p
 
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