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Here is the deal:

Older RC440BX with latest BIOS that overtly supports PII and PIII to 650MHZ. Slot one.

MSI 6905 (rev 2) Slocket adapter.

650MHz CUmine flip-chip.

Set bios for 650 and system starts but pops up a horrible message saying system is halted because a 650E (or 600E, or 550E) was detected and the system board does not support the voltage for the chip. WTF??

Can I get around this? Can the MSI 6905 help (I did diddle the voltage jumpers but kept getting the message). I'm told the processor I have will easily OC to 850, but I can't even get up at rated.

Can anyone help??

I'd prefer not to have to update the MB...

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Scotty, the native people here ARE friendly... (AnandTech IS Suck!)
 
Bad news bub, but the 650E is different from a standard 650. The E means it's looking for a 133 FSB. I don't know much about that board, but if it's older, it probably doesn't support 133. As for the slockets...it could be something wrong with the microcode. Yeah, they should work and they're rated to do this and that, but you're really working with an unknown variable here. I don't like the fact that Intel went back to the socket format, forcing people to use these or upgrade. The slockets are a viable solution, but aren't really Intel approved. I know you don't want this answer, but you will probably need to upgrade the MB. But get a second opinion before you go out and do that
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Thx torvus-

The MSI Slocket is supposed to be fully coppermine flip-chip capable, so I don't think that is the problem. I figured I was in trouble about the 'E' thing, but I was still hoping to kludge around this somehow. I had the board running at a setting of 450mHZ with this chip, but started popping up that message when I kicked it to 650. I'm now running a Slot 1 PII at 500 (nicely) but I really wanted to go 650+ on PIII (and the chip is supposed to overclock up to 850!!)

Ah well- I guess its motherboard shopping I go...



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Scotty, the native people here ARE friendly... (AnandTech IS Suck!)
 
Would you like a suggestion? Hold out for the 815 chipset. You don't have to get an Intel board, but everyone is giving this glowing previews. I can't give an ETA but it should be out this quarter. Wanna check one out? Go to Tom's Hardware
 
torvus> Sorry, but you're wrong.
The 'E' signifies that it is a Coppermine core PIII CPU, and only uses 100MHz FSB.
The designation for 133MHz Coppermines is the 'B' designation.

And since everything after the 600 uses the Coppermine core, that means that any 650 is essentially a 650E, and runs on the 100MHz FSB, since you can't get 650 using a 133 FSB.

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From another BBS:
"hmm... Cyrix III, huh? You can put syrup on sh*t, but that don't make it pancakes."

[Edited by Diesel Dan @ May 24, 2000 (edited 1 time)]
 
Hmmm... The board and BIOS CLAIM to support PIII to 650MHz (just updated to the latest one off of the Intel support site).

All PIII past 600 are CU core thus are 'E's

Yet, the BIOS shuts down complaining that the board won't support an 'E' processor.

I ask again- WTF?

Am I doing something wrong? Can I get this to work as I think it can??

What do ya think DD, ol' buddy, ol' pal...

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Scotty, the native people here ARE friendly... (AnandTech IS Suck!)

[Edited by CaptKirk @ May 24, 2000 (edited 1 time)]
 
Capt> I noticed that you say you have the MSI 6905. Is this the Master version, since I don't think the vanilla 6905 supports Coppermine CPUs. Might want to check into that.

I would say the voltage issue is in the slotket, since that should have jumpers to set the voltage.
From what I remember, I was told emphatically to not touch the jumpers on the slotket, since it's already set for Coppermine by default and at the correct settings.
I have the MSI 6905 Master slotket, and I set it up right out of the box. Just popped in the CPU, attached the heatsink, popped it in the slot 1 connector, and I was ready to go.

I'm just guessing, but that could be the reason you're having problems.


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From another BBS:
"hmm... Cyrix III, huh? You can put syrup on sh*t, but that don't make it pancakes."
 
It is supposed to be the MSI Master slocket (rev 2) that supports CU-mine (brand spanking new). I've tried the default as well as a few other voltage combinations to no avail. The BIOS is ****ing that the board does not support the voltage for the 'E' chip. What the heck does THAT mean???!?? What voltage is a standard PII/PIII??

Is there a NON-'E' (non-CUmine)650mHZ slot one processor?

Why would the board claim to support 650 but then **** about it?

This is perplexing. Thanks for the help so far.




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Scotty, the native people here ARE friendly... (AnandTech IS Suck!)
 
IIRC, my 600E runs at 1.65V.

There is NOT a non CuMine PIII 650. As stated earlier, all CPUs following the PIII 600 are based on the Coppermine core.

No idea as to why your board says it supports up to 650, then ****es about the CPU being a Coppermine.

Sorry, wish I could be of more help. FWIW, I'm using an Asus P3B-F, and my 600E runs fine at 800, and gets detected as an 800EB.



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From another BBS:
"hmm... Cyrix III, huh? You can put syrup on sh*t, but that don't make it pancakes."
 
Anyone know if an Intel RC440BX board supports 1.65V??? I have no idea where to look...

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Scotty, the native aliens here ARE friendly...
 
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